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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 21, 2012 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

Phil only plays it for a few seconds there!
But it sounds to me like an undeveloped version of a riff he plays countless times in '73. It was discussed in this thread -
http://transitiveaxis.forumup.us/viewtopic.php?t=1115&;mforum=transitiveaxis
Examples are 6/24/73 DS (6:30), 9/11/73 DS (11m), 2/26/73 DS (11m), and plenty of others.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2012 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

Can anyone tell the big difference between the riff played at around 4:30-5 min into the other one from 2-28 (DP 28) and the riff played on 6/24, 2/26 dark stars?

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Sep 21, 2012 1:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

Phil in that time span also sampled some of A Love Supreme and that seems to be the case here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qagOblqhBhk

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Poster: yesss! Date: Sep 21, 2012 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

they are pretty similar, but the riff that phil plays in dark star is in 6 and the one that he plays in other one is in 5. and phil actually tries to initiate the 5 riff in the 2/28 dark star (10:20-11:00), but nobody else jumps on it so he abandons it and plays the 6 riff instead. check it out- you can hear them back to back for comparison.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 21, 2012 11:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

Yes, that's true - I noticed in the Transitive Axis thread that he starts the riff in 5 on 2/26, then switches to 6. But in the 2/28 Other One, he stays in 5. The mysteries of musicians...

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2012 3:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

thanks for the help. appreciate it.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 21, 2012 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help Identifying A Famous Jazz Riff (From '72 Truckin'>Other One Jam)

nice...

I was close with the guess for DP28.

There was a good conversation about this piece at another forum where I think they dubbed it the six jam based on its time signature. 6-24-73 has likely the best rendition of this riff.